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Offline Stan464

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Virtual Machine Software & USB Chipset Issues
« on: December 04, 2013, 10:23:32 AM »
Hi, Im new to this forum, Iv'e been lurking around while waiting for my account to be Approved, & i must say, love the Family feel you get,

No "Insults" to newbies Or any of other things you always bump into. love it.

Well here we go,

ive been messing with Vmware & Virtual Box, BUT Im having an issue with "USB Wireless Cards" Such as "Realtek 8187l" For example.

I do have a Youtube Video explaining the issue far better than what i have done here, (Excuse Audio Quality)

If anyone is able to help.

i have searched the forums for "Related" Issue's, & None fit the bill.

"Devices Mount Into Vmware & Virtual Box Without Issue, Also Using Backtrack 5 R3"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXrHMNkxQg8&feature=c4-overview&list=UUwKqTulm99EAbcBPncb8bDg
« Last Edit: December 04, 2013, 10:30:52 AM by Stan464 »

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Re: Virtual Machine Software & USB Chipset Issues
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2013, 10:49:51 AM »
Have you tried:

a) booting from bt5 via livecd/liveusb and tried the same routine? do you get the same results?

b) instead of running reaver, try running airodump-ng and see how long it takes for the wifi to stop updating the access points.

c) try using another distro?

Also, you are running it in VM, what is your primary os using as an interface? Could you be sharing the same interface? You have a laptop but only one wireless interface is showing up, (wlan0) where is the onboard wifi at?

some links to review:

http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=911551

http://www.ppq.ch/snippets/19-fix-airodump-ng-no-results-vbox

http://rumyittips.com/how-to-fix-your-network-adapter-for-backtrack-or-kali-linux/
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Re: Virtual Machine Software & USB Chipset Issues
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2013, 11:05:13 AM »
0E 800, Thanks for your reply aswell. <3.


Well, Ill give you what i know as follows.

Run Down of Laptop Specs is

Core i5 2450M, 2.5Ghz.
6GB RAM
40 Gig HDD (Yes, Rather small, Due to being a temp fix as my SSD Died :()
Does Indeed have USB 3.0 Ports. Which arnt the issue when it comes to mounting, as they mount fine.


Right, Ive tried Many Distro's, Being 3 So far, Xiaopan, Reaver Pro, Backtrack 5 KDE

All Ran Within Both Virtual Box & Vmware.

Used Many USB Cables & Wireless Cards to rule out Hardware faults (External Devices).

Scaning Access Points normally gives me a Healthy 3-5 Minutes with 0 Issues.

Managed to Capture My Own WPA Handshake Off my Access Point.

That went Fine & lovley.

Now With reaver. i can get between 3 & 6 Pin Attempts with a 1 Minute break between each Set of 3.

From there its goodnight,

It dies.

when you try to re-scan, it finds no Access Points like nothing exists, Putting the Network Card down, & back up does nothing.

Re-Airmon The card does nothing.


Is that suffiecient, if not, Ask for more & ill try n explain a little more, sorry if im vague, i do try my best, just such an odd issue.

(Currently Installing Backbox @ Vmware As We Speak)


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Right, Internal Card isn't added to my vm,

Only "Realtek 8187l" Card Will & Is Added,"

So of course. only wlan0 will show as we know. :)..

Also, ive tried running Xiopan live, With similar issues. BUT i dont Like Using Live CD's Anyways. (didnt have a spare DVD or big enough USB Key For BT Live)
« Last Edit: December 05, 2013, 11:11:24 AM by Stan464 »

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Re: Virtual Machine Software & USB Chipset Issues
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2013, 11:19:59 AM »
A hacker without a spare usb drive.. is like a boy-scout without a pocket knife or like a crackhead without a lighter. :P

I think you should still try loading backtrack 5 in live mode and see if you get the same problem. That would rule out hardware issues, and then you could just focus on whatever VMplayer you are using.
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Re: Virtual Machine Software & USB Chipset Issues
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2013, 11:27:01 AM »
Haha love it!

Yeh got a good ammount of USB Keys, just none Spare..

I Do i think, However have a slightly older REV Of Backtrack i could use. See if that helps my cause out...


And yeh, from there i can find out, I really appreciate your help with this, can understand most people have there own things to work out & do..

So, Cheers for your help & ill go and test this now & see what results i get, will post back soonish with what happens..

Thanks 0E-800! Really Appreciate the Advice!


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Ok, Im Talking On backtrack Live which i had laying around.

Right, Im getting better results. BUT i have to keep yanking the USB, & re-insert, as it just dies like before.. (Though a mac-addres change can sometimes make it last little longer)...

So something keeps knocking it out of whack. Since this is a live CD, just cannot see anything that should be an issue...
« Last Edit: December 05, 2013, 12:14:30 PM by Stan464 »

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Re: Virtual Machine Software & USB Chipset Issues
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2013, 01:12:33 PM »
I have had issues with the USB 3.0 ports.. try sticking with the 2.0 ports with VMs
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Re: Virtual Machine Software & USB Chipset Issues
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2013, 01:36:25 PM »
Hi Tape,

And yeh, thats the issue, No matter what the USB Port, The End game is the same.

The Wireless Cards mount without An issue... & The are reported to be Still "Connected" Within Linux & The Virtual Machine Software..

BUT after a while. it dies, Find's 0 Access Points..

Even with it being Reported As "All Fine". Software Wise.

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Re: Virtual Machine Software & USB Chipset Issues
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2013, 01:50:07 PM »
Your wireless NICs will not work in a VM when connected to a USB 3.0 port..

The VM software will advise connected, but the guest will not be able to communicate with it.

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Re: Virtual Machine Software & USB Chipset Issues
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2013, 02:12:55 PM »
This Isnt the case, If you check the YT Video I created,

I Show it working Up till a point Fine & Dandy, The Wireless NIC Gets Mounted without a single issue ( Untill ) Of Course.

They Mount Fine, No Matter the USB Port,

And i can get to a point with Airodump &/OR Reaver, Untill it dies

Both, "Vmware" & "Virtual Box"..
« Last Edit: December 06, 2013, 03:28:45 AM by Stan464 »

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Re: Virtual Machine Software & USB Chipset Issues
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2013, 06:17:52 AM »
Hey there Stan464, Xiaopan is actually a dirty word around here... they basically rip off everyone else's stuff and stick it in their distro (including our stuff).
That being said, did you get your Realtek 8187l from a reliable source?
We have had an issue with a member in the past, who had issues with his card and it ended up being a China knockoff.
He purchased an Alfa from us and it worked fine... it was the card itself that had the issue.
Another issue that may cause the card to work for a short time is if the card is dying. This has happened to me when we were giving someone a test (great time for it to die, right?). It would work for a short time, but would always end up dying before the goal was accomplished.
I don't know how long you have had your card or where you got it from... just throwing the thoughts out there.
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Re: Virtual Machine Software & USB Chipset Issues
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2013, 07:57:35 AM »
@GalaxyNinja

Oh Man, So Sorry, had no idea that they RIPPED Stuff from you guys, A-Holes..

Sorry if i offended by mentioning it.

But The source of 2 Are & Appear to be very legit Sourced. The other is a Ebay "Kansens" Device.

They arnt very new cards, But i wouldnt say they were Old & Worn out, Been used about 10 Times on both card for about 20 Hours total use each.

Cosmetically, 1 Isn't in the best shape, as it once got scratch up. But Internally, Untouched.

So about 2 hours at most on one session, Never gets to hot, never over-clocked? (If thats the term?)

If it does turn out to be the card-s. Ill try & Source another decent one for a fair price, being as im from the "United Kingdom"..


Right, GalaxyNinja, Is there an Distro i can try that works Happily with the Alfa Model "AWUS036NHR" As Most don't,

its bassicly a brand new adapter which, again, appears to be Genuine "Alfa" Card, & Wanting to test the whole theory out of My other cards being pretty close to dead?

By using the Brand new Card, it could then from there, define once and for all.

And Again, To everyone, thanks for taking the time to help me, as i know most people have there own Lifes & Computer issues (if any) to deal with.

thanks!

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Re: Virtual Machine Software & USB Chipset Issues
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2013, 09:37:48 AM »
Have you tried turning it off and on again?

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Re: Virtual Machine Software & USB Chipset Issues
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2013, 09:41:02 AM »
@ch3rn0byl

If thats a serious suggestion, the answer is yes lol..

A good few times to haha.

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Re: Virtual Machine Software & USB Chipset Issues
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2013, 09:55:51 AM »
@ch3rn0byl

If thats a serious suggestion, the answer is yes lol..

A good few times to haha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p85xwZ_OLX0
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Re: Virtual Machine Software & USB Chipset Issues
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2013, 10:17:42 AM »
Yeh man, I know where it's from, Hence me asking if you was being Serious. xD

Happens to by one of fave shows, Specially Since im from England xD.